Here, the lingua-franca of the common Punjabi is Punjabi, of course. It’s those who consider themselves ‘hip, hop and happening’, jihna da haal-chaal maaDa ai!!

Riyaz we’re loosing our focus on goals …!

Zios Kind of right here, but as newer lot’s coming, kids are becoming more and more addicted to internet and other mediums online (as in orkut) rather the books – I havent seen one good library catering to real literary and interesting stuff in urdu and english in lahore and Islamabad, further the registration and other such stuff is such an hassle that you stay out of such activities … promotion of one thing needs some ease in the way for people too – to attract ….!

Rammal in one perspective he was right ..!

Lubna All of us have our opinions :> thanks for coming by

GH Ghalib and Tasawuf as in tujhay hum walli samajhtay jo na Baa’dah khwar hota – interesting point BTW … I believe naphthalene’s crystallization and ghalib were connected by doc sahab in a more deep way … for the state of change (of matter or emotions)a major force is needed (a deep impact is needed) and ghalib’s poetry is full of impacts and changes … I’m too sleepy to say what I want to & I’m not chickening out :>

Absar Same here … instead of refining I feel like going back to Raw stages (if there was any *:>*) we think – say- and forget it — action usually gets evaporated en route … !

Sidhusaaheb Hmmm Should I jump with joy that we are not in such bad state well actually at some places here I’m quite impressed as in Aitchison or Lahore Grammar they even teach punjabi or novels in urdu at matric/o-level stage … fewer steps by parents are much needed too … !

Hoping things dont deteriorate and improve progressively with time, inshah allah!

I find that a large number of people among my generation and the generations following it are seriously linguistically challenged.

For example, those who consider themselves ‘progressive’ amongst Punjabis, do not teach their childrean to speak Punjabi. So, they can’t speak their own mother tongue.

They teach them to speak Hindi, but the children can’t speak that language correctly because their basic vocabulary and sentence-formation skills are based on Punjabi.

They are taught English at school, but they tend to speak and write that language incorrectly, as well, because they directly translate entire sentences from Hindi to English without bothering much about grammar and correct usage.

So, in effect, they can’t speak or write correctly in any language at all.

I suspect that one only needs to substitute Hindi with Urdu to get a fair idea of what the ‘progressive’ among the Punjabi youth are up to, on the other side of the international border.

Incidentally, the marketing is in ‘Hinglish’ only because standards of knowledge of the English language have been declining steadily since independence. It is not uncommon to find grotesque phrases like ‘cut a cheque’ in so-called reputed national dailies.

Anyway, I completely agree with Mr. Shamoon on this. I can see the deterioration in my own speech. Now, even when I write, I use the same figures I would when speaking. In fact, I can see a very troubling change in my writings from four years ago and my writing now.

So yes, it is time to act now.

‘If you don’t read Ghalib, how can you do the crystallization?’

It’s true only for the crystallisation and purity of soul. Did Ghalib write something on Tasavuff?

Otherwise a chemical process has nothing to do with his poetry. Perhaps Dr sb was anxiously reading Ghalib these days.
No connection at all.

If you havn’t read him then buy his collection and go through it thoroughly.

Riyaz! The question is: Are we really stuck? I don’t think so.It’s case only with those who don’t want to move.

Zios! I think from childhood we must stress on Reading, writing and independent thinking.

Majority of schools and educated and even not-so-educated parents are taking good care of these things. Even our Massi is sensible enough and her both children are studying in school.

Though We don’t have much libraries but lemme tell you that: Where there is a will there is a way. By the way what is meant by ‘Independant Thinking’ of a 6 yesrs old? Please elaborate.